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I'm digging on Candlemass again today. Listen to "Bearer of Pain" or "At the Gallows End" and tell me that wasn't a bad-ass band of white boys.

I can't help laughing at them sometimes, though. They have a song called "Through the Infinitive Halls of Death." I think they meant "infinite." (I'll cut 'em a break, though--I think they're Swedish.) And that's not even getting into the fact that their singer was a big fat dude named Messiah wearing a monk outfit.

[Poll #333502]

edit: OK, if you happen to be all hopped up on sugar or something and think it's "ho's", leave a comment and I'll take it into consideration.

Date: 2004-08-09 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolynturgeon.livejournal.com
You garden with hoes!
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Date: 2004-08-09 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
Thank you, my dear. I knew you would be a voice of Reason. Unlike some people below I could mention.

*ducks*

ha

Date: 2004-08-09 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationofsheep.livejournal.com
I just had a big ass cup of black coffee. There could be none blacker. And I say it's "ho's", but "hos" is okay. Although, I did always imagine that redneck gulf coast thing of calling people "hos" was spelled "hos", pronounced has, like ha with an s sound at the end. What is that anyway? "Hey hos!" What does that mean?

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-09 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
Word up for black coffee.

And I know what you're talking about! I think it's "hoss," kind of a bastardization of "horse." I've had cause to consider this at length because when I lived in Mississippi, I had lots of people call me that. I dunno if I look like a horse or what.

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-09 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichotomous.livejournal.com
Naw, it's like callin somebody "son" or "dawg."

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-09 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
Well yeah, that's how it's used, but where does it come from? And how's it spelled? We need answers.

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-09 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationofsheep.livejournal.com
Yes this is my confusion as well. I was born in New Jersy and moved to Texas when I was 12. I understood the "dawg" element and that being the way it was used, but I know that "dawg" comes from "dog". Where does "hoss" come from? I could assume it was from "horse", but why? Hey there "horse". There has to be some etymology on the term somewhere.

By the way, I accept "hoss" as the proper way to spell such word, and in context, "hos" is bound to be clear enough. But for the sake of argument, let's say that the apostrophe usually indicated possession or absence in the case of a contraction. "ho" is one word so it is not officially a contraction but it is a shortened word for "whore". So maybe "ho'" and plural "ho's". Now let me go refill my coffee and urinate.

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-10 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
The OED sayeth:

hoss, n.

Dial. and U.S. var. of HORSE n.

1. = HORSE n. 1 and 26a.

1815 D. HUMPHREYS Yankey in Eng. v. 77 The boys..see a ghost in the form of a white hoss; and an Indian in every black stump. 1849 N. KINGSLEY Diary (1914) 88 My supper consisted of beans, old hoss, and hard bread. 1877 J. M. BAILEY Folks in Danbury 37 But this is a hoss of another colour. 1877 F. ROSS et al. Gloss. Holderness 78 Hoss, a horse. 1887 T. DARLINGTON Folk-Speech S. Cheshire 225 Hoss-wesh, a horse-pond. 1888 F. R. STOCKTON Dusantes 15 ‘These hosses won't do much at holdin back,’ he said. 1889 M. PEACOCK Taales fra Linkisheere 130 In cums a greät black hoss, all drippin' wi' wet. 1958 S. E. HYMAN in A. Dundes Mother Wit (1973) 55/1 He had him a big black hoss.


Some of those citations are kinda disturbing. :\

You kinda blew my mind with the second paragraph. :) But with "ho" there's no possession or absence, so you make it plural just by adding an "s" like any other word. I think?

Re: ha

Date: 2004-08-10 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationofsheep.livejournal.com
Well, if the OED sayeth, then it is... And yes, disturbing... "He had him a big black hoss."

You're right. Besides, how would you do possession? "Who's jimmy is that?" "That is the ho's jimmy?"

Date: 2004-08-09 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichotomous.livejournal.com
HO'S!, BITCH!

Date: 2004-08-10 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichotomous.livejournal.com
Hah! I committed the additiona sin of using a ! and then a , ... I'm in for it now.

Date: 2004-08-10 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
I'll bet you actually heard me cringe. That's not easy to do.

Date: 2004-08-10 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichotomous.livejournal.com
I did. It was a crinkly kind of sound.

Date: 2004-08-09 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buscemi.livejournal.com


They have a song called "Through the Infinitive Halls of Death." I think they meant "infinite."

>>That reminds me of high school Spanish class.

Date: 2004-08-10 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerywren.livejournal.com
(I'll cut 'em a break, though--I think they're Swedish.)

Seriously. You gotta give 'em credit for having a second language since Swedish seems like a bitch in itself to master; even if you're Swedish. :-p
Most of my favorite bands are Scandinavian. Reading the linear notes and lyric sheets to their albums is really quite entertaining.

Date: 2004-08-10 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wickedflea.livejournal.com
What are some good Scandinavian bands to check out? I've never gotten into black metal or anything of the sort. Listened to a good bit of thrash/speed years ago, but haven't kept up with it.

Date: 2004-08-10 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerywren.livejournal.com
What are some good Scandinavian bands to check out?

Opeth is a band that I think everyone should check out. They are my favorite and an absolutely astonishing talent. I would also recommend In Flames (namely the album The Jester Race, although I like them all) and Dark Tranquillity (the album Damage Done).
I can suggest bands forever, man. ;-)

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